Incidentally - if you do not read Little Dee regularly, you should at least go over there today to see the little "video" made of the the knitting-sea-shanty that Chris came up with a month ago. It's all kinds of awesome. (Even if I do think they mispronounce "Vachel." I always "heard" [well, in my mind at least] it as having a long 'a' in there, not a short one)